Seed or Harvest
L.E.O.
Law Enforcement Officer
Independent Financial Education Podcast.
Episode 05
15th APRIL

Officer Ty
LEO PODCAST
Living Will vs Healthcare Power of Attorney: Key Estate Planning Documents for Law Enforcement Families
Retiring from law enforcement often means losing a familiar group health plan and stepping into a world that feels expensive and confusing. In this episode, Mario Lizarraga and Officer Ty break down what changes after you leave government employment, why you will still be able to get insured, and how to understand the numbers that drive your real financial exposure.
This guide is especially helpful for Phoenix-area police officers, law enforcement officers, public safety employees, and first responders who are preparing to retire before Medicare eligibility and need to understand private health insurance, ACA plans, and retirement healthcare costs.
For more information about ACA options, visit MAPFL’s Obamacare resource page or compare available health insurance carriers.
This episode helps law enforcement officers and their families understand the estate planning documents that matter while you are still alive. A financial power of attorney allows someone to help with money decisions, a healthcare power of attorney allows someone to make medical decisions if you cannot communicate, and a living will gives written instructions for specific end-of-life medical situations. For officers, first responders, spouses, and families, these documents can reduce confusion, conflict, and court involvement after an injury, illness, or unexpected emergency.
Quick Answer (60 seconds)
When you retire, you can still get health insurance because ACA plans are guaranteed issue, even with preexisting conditions. The bigger issue is cost and understanding how your plan works: deductible, coinsurance, and out-of-pocket maximum. Mario walks through a real example showing that you do not pay 20% forever; you pay coinsurance until you hit your out-of-pocket maximum, then the plan covers 100% for the rest of the calendar year. They also explain that dental, vision, and hearing coverage are usually separate outside of employment, and why working with a broker helps you avoid buying coverage out of fear.
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Table of Contents
- Why Retiring Officers Worry About Health Insurance
- Guaranteed Issue: You Can Get Covered After You Leave
- What “Obamacare” Is (and Is Not)
- Premium Reality for Retiring Officers
- Provider Networks and Prescriptions Can Limit Your Options
- The Three Terms That Confuse Everyone: Deductible, Coinsurance, Out-of-Pocket Maximum
- Example Walkthrough: $2,500 Deductible, 80/20 Coinsurance, $8,000 Out-of-Pocket Max
- The Calendar-Year Reset and Why Timing Matters
- Fear vs Math: Why People Overbuy “Low Deductible” Plans
- Dental, Vision, and Hearing After Retirement (Usually Separate)
- Why a Broker Matters for Retiring Officers
- FAQs
- Key Takeaways
- Next Steps / CTA
Why Retiring Officers Worry About Health Insurance
Officer Ty describes the reality many officers face: while you are working, group health insurance feels manageable, but once you leave, the premium can become a major monthly line item. Mario agrees and frames it plainly: for many retirees, health insurance becomes like a mortgage or car payment, and you need to plan for it, not guess.
They also discuss why some officers work longer than they want to, simply to keep the group plan in place.
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Guaranteed Issue: You Can Get Covered After You Leave
Mario reassures listeners that insurability is no longer the core problem because ACA plans are guaranteed issue. In the episode, he emphasizes that coverage can be obtained regardless of weight, chronic conditions, or serious diagnoses.
The real challenge is not whether you can get a plan. It is what the plan costs and how it fits your provider and prescription needs.
What “Obamacare” Is (and Is Not)
Mario explains a key point many people miss: “Obamacare” is not a single insurance plan. It is a financial assistance framework that can subsidize premiums based on household size, age, and income.
For many retiring officers, Mario expects financial assistance will not apply, which is why premiums can feel shockingly high compared to what you paid while employed.
Premium Reality for Retiring Officers
In the episode, Mario gives real-world pricing ranges he is seeing for older individuals, and then scales that up for a couple. His point is not the exact number for every household, but the planning mindset: treat it as a major recurring expense, because it can easily reach four figures per month depending on age and household.
Mario also notes that some retirees offset this by starting pension withdrawals immediately, taking a second job, or finding new employment with a group plan.
Provider Networks and Prescriptions Can Limit Your Options
Mario explains that your healthcare needs drive your available plan options. If you must keep specific doctors or need specific prescriptions, that can narrow the plans you can reasonably choose.
His takeaway for retirees is straightforward: if you are highly provider-specific or medication-dependent, you may pay more to protect continuity of care.
The Three Terms That Confuse Everyone: Deductible, Coinsurance, Out-of-Pocket Maximum
They focus on the three core plan mechanics that most people misunderstand:
- Deductible
- Coinsurance
- Out-of-pocket maximum
Mario notes that most people understand “deductible,” but confusion starts once coinsurance enters the picture, especially when people assume they will owe a percentage of a large bill with no ceiling.
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Example Walkthrough: $2,500 Deductible, 80/20 Coinsurance, $8,000 Out-of-Pocket Max
Mario uses a simple example to show how the stop-loss protection really works. In the scenario, there is a major medical event and a very large hospital bill.
The key clarification: you are responsible for the deductible first, then coinsurance applies only until the total you have paid (deductible plus coinsurance) reaches the out-of-pocket maximum. After you hit that out-of-pocket maximum, the plan covers covered services at 100% for the rest of the calendar year.
Officer Ty’s “aha” moment is the same moment most retirees have: the out-of-pocket maximum is the ceiling, not the start of another calculation.
The Calendar-Year Reset and Why Timing Matters
Mario explains that these plan accumulators reset on the calendar year. Officer Ty asks the practical question: what if a major event happens late in the year?
The answer: if the accident is in late December, you can hit your out-of-pocket maximum and then face a reset on January 1, potentially creating new exposure in the new year if care continues.
Fear vs Math: Why People Overbuy “Low Deductible” Plans
Mario explains why many people default to low deductibles: fear of the unknown. He argues that insurers know this and price plans accordingly, raising premiums when people demand richer upfront benefits.
His recommendation is to take an annualized view and remember that large medical bills often end up on payment plans anyway. The idea is not to be careless, but to avoid paying extra premium every month for a scenario that may never happen.
Dental, Vision, and Hearing After Retirement (Usually Separate)
Mario says that outside the employer bubble, dental and vision are typically separate plans and hearing aids are typically not covered in the way people expect. He explains that these add-on plans often function more like capped benefits than full insurance, with annual maximums and limitations.
They walk through how dental plans can include cleanings but still have annual dollar caps that also get reduced by those included services. For vision, Mario describes common designs like an annual exam benefit and an allowance toward frames or contacts.
Why a Broker Matters for Retiring Officers
Mario encourages retiring officers to work with a broker who understands plan mechanics, networks, and prescription alignment. His practical benchmark is experience: someone who has stayed in the business long enough to build and keep a client base.
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FAQs
Key Takeaways
- You can still get insured after retirement because ACA plans are guaranteed issue.
- The real challenge is cost and understanding plan mechanics.
- Deductible plus coinsurance only applies until you hit the out-of-pocket maximum.
- Everything resets on January 1, so timing can matter.
- Dental, vision, and hearing are often separate outside employer coverage and may be capped benefits.
- A broker can help you match networks and prescriptions so you do not buy blindly out of fear.
Who This Episode Helps
This episode is for law enforcement officers, police officers, public safety employees, first responders, and spouses who are planning for retirement and need to understand how health insurance changes after leaving an employer-sponsored group plan.
It is especially relevant for people retiring before Medicare eligibility who need to compare ACA plans, private health insurance options, provider networks, prescription coverage, and total yearly exposure.
Next Steps / CTA
Protect Your Family Before a Crisis Happens
If you are a law enforcement officer, spouse, or first responder family, MAPFL can help you think through the protection planning pieces that matter: healthcare decisions, financial decision-making, retirement planning, life insurance, health insurance, and family security.
Book a free consultation to start building a plan that protects your family before an emergency happens.
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- https://mapfl.com/blog/obamacare/
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Reviewed by: MAPFL Editorial Team (Maximize Asset Protection)
